Interesting nagging question. I may have to get to you after work as I like to use actual bench players for the bench and it'll take me a while to compile my list.

SI did something similar in the 80s and used contempo players. One guy that I would use from that list on my team is Bob Stanley as my long man out of the pen.

Why do I think that Ty Cobb is going to have a hard time getting along with some of the black players? You better have a manager who can bring people from vastly different backgrounds together. Probably not Cap Anson. May I suggest Bill Clinton?

My team below. By the way, I like your first 6.

Ty Cobb lf
Rogers Hornsby 2b
Babe Ruth rf
Josh Gibson c
Lou Gehrig 1b
Willie Mays cf
Mike Schmidt, 3b
Honus Wagner, ss

Bench

Ted Williams
Barry Bonds
Oscar Charleston
Joe Morgan
Alex Rodriguez
Johnny Bench
Pete Rose (util)

I know I'm a little outfield heavy, but being able to bring in Ted or Barry to pinch hit would be awesome. Charleston can play all 3 outfield positions.
Morgan, besides backing up Hornsby, would be a great pinch runner.
ARod can play short or 3rd.
Bench is right there as the greatest defensive catcher, so bring him in during the 8th.
Rose can play 5 positions and would give Ty Cobb and Satchel Paige someone to gamble with.

Pitchers

Walter Johnson
Lefty Grove
Grover Cleveland Alexander
Satchel Paige
Tom Seaver
Christy Mathewson
Hoyt Wilhelm
Sandy Koufax
Randy Johnson
Mariano Rivera

This starting 5 rotation can get it done. I liked your idea of using Wilhelm as a rubber-armed knuckleballer.
In the bullpen is where I get more creative. Can you imagine if Koufax and the Big Unit came out of the pen? Forget about it.
Rivera is the most consistent, reliable pitcher I've ever seen.

2 I absolutely love that the first name brought up in this discussion of all-time greats is Bob Stanley. Never in a million years would I have guessed that to be the case.

3 Nice choices, Scott. Just about all of them have at one time or another been members of my roster, too. (Not A-Rod though. I just can't do it.) I've thought about using Rose as the utility guy a lot, too, but decided that Jackie Robinson can play all the positions Rose played. Furthermore, Jackie confronts the Cobb problem you mentioned head on: Jackie's my player-manager, and either Cobb deals with it or is shown the door (and Rickey Henderson gets called up from the cosmic minors).

I just realized I have a 6 man rotation. Considering most of my guys pitched in 4 man rotations...this wouldn't work, so I will use Satchel Paige in between Koufax and Johnson.

Think about the Big Train pitching through the 4th, then bringing in the knuckleballing Wilhelm to deal with in the 5th. Then back to the heat in the 6th with Koufax. Paige throws his myriad of pitches in the 7th. Back once again to the heat of the Big Unit in the 8th. Then Rivera brings his nasty cutter to close it out. Hey, it's my fantasy.

Ricky was the guy I initially had on my list, but I realized I needed another infielder, so I went with Morgan as my pinch runner. If Cobb isn't on the team, I would have Henderson as my leadoff hitter as well.

Henderson - LF
Hornsby - 2B
Ruth - RF
Gehrig - 1B
Mays - CF
Schmidt - 3B
Bench - C
E. Banks - SS

Leadoff man is key to any productive offense. Nobody better than Henderson. I like Morgan as a number 2 hitter, good walks and great speed, but you just can't pass up Hornsby when you compare these guys. Hornsby's lifetime BA and OBP are just so much better than Morgan's. Ruth is just the best, ever . . . I'd even ask him to pitch. Gehrig is the only one who should be hitting behind the Babe. When I think of the prototypical catcher, I think of Johnny Bench. Damn he was solid. Love Banks as the SS . . . Cubs need some representation. Best pure pinch-runner of all-time??? Larry Lintz. I want that guy on my team; he also can fill some utility spots. I think every major league team needs a pich-runner deluxe. They could win 15 extra games a season, every year. A must. Can't believe teams don't use the PR to win those ever important one-run games.

Bat boys - Barry Bonds and Curt Schilling, just so we can heckle these asses and spit water at them.

Heh, Josh, I was going to mention Mantle over Mays. But it depends on whether or not you're looking at the guys entire body of work or at a guy at a particular moment in time.

As far as the Steamer goes, I could've mentioned Manny Mota as the all-EWK pinchhitter, but I had Bigfooton the brain.

It's fun to think of role players being lpayed by true role players, meanining it seems odd to think of Pete Rose sitting on the bench waiting to come into the game, or Koufax pitching only the 8th inning to set up Rivera. My favorite setup man was Paul Lindblad. Solid lefty with good control. Despite great numbers, and a long career, he never played the role that would bring him the sexy stats and the notoriety. Best bench players? (besides Johnny, ha! . . . wow, did I really just write that? Weak!) How about Gates Brown as a pinch-hitter, occasional player. Always liked that guy, and the power. I like the Mota suggestion for pinch-hitting.What about defensive replacement type guys? How about Mike Jorgensen 1st base. Infielder . . . how about Mario Mendoza making the all-time team, as a defensive replacement? Outfielder replacement . . . Rick Miller?

Role player Johnny Blanchard, like him too.

6: Good calls on Bench and Banks.

As for pinch-runners, I like the mention of Larry Lintz, but how about a guy who's proven he can come off the bench and steal a base in a huge spot (he's also a good fielder): Dave Roberts.

7: Can't really argue with choosing Mantle over Mays, but I think Willie was considered a better fielder, maybe the best ever at that key spot. (Plus how many Yankees can you expect a Red Sox fan to have on his all-time team?)

8 Paul Lindblad ... never played the role that would bring him the sexy stats and the notoriety

Perhaps not, but he does hold the record for pitching in all seven games of a World Series.

It was Dorold Knowles that pitched in all 7 games of the 1973 series.

12 Darold Knowles! I knew I should have double-checked that. Same team, same series, same age, same handedness, once traded for each other (sort of), and 9 and 10 on each other's Similarity Scores.

The school of thought I have always subscribed to concerning an unstoppable 25 man team is that the bench has to be composed of actual bench/sub/utility players.

I'd love to list my bench right now, but I just got done with a three beer lunch and I can't remember who any of them are. I also can't remember what the standards were for determining who was an actual bench type player. Not Manny Ramirez/Barry Bonds/Harmon Killebrew/etc., that's for sure.

14 Actually Harmon Killebrew would make it. Dude played like five positions and three in a season, so he's on my bench.

Look at that bullpen of the 1973 A's . . . is was truly complete, with solid lefties and righties. Here is their performance in the 1973 world series:

Fingers: 6 games, 13.7 innings, 0.66 ERA, 2 saves.

Knowles: 7 games, 6.3 innings, 0.00 ERA, 2 saves.

Lindblad: 3 games, 3.3 innings, 0.00 ERA, 1 win.

Pina: 2 games, 3 innings, 0.00 ERA.

Wow. Tough to beat that. And, the opposition faces this fearsome set, only after they faced Catfish Hunter, Vida Blue, and Ken Holtzman.

To date, I still think that A's dynasty is the perfect design for the ideal club. Good on base pct., good speed and power, clutch hitting, can play small ball incredibly (I watched one of their world series games recently on VHS . . . they bunted 5 times and won by a run!) Pretty defense, and amazing pitching. Perfect model. They didn't hit for a high average, for the most part; really the only short coming, yet, with everything else, who needs 5 guys hitiing over .300?

Joe Morgan 2B
Honus Wagner SS
Babe Ruth RF
Lou Gehrig 1B
Josh Gibson C
Oscar Charleston LF
Willie Mays CF
Mike Schmidt 3B

Ted Williams
Stan Musial
Henry Aaron
Ty Cobb
Roy Campanella
Jackie Robinson
Martin Dihigo

SP Walter Johnson
SP Lefty Grove
SP Pedro Martinez
SP Satchel Paige
SP Roger Clemens

P Greg Maddux
P Randy Johnson
P Sandy Koufax
P Pete Alexander
P Eric Gagne (assuming I get all these guys at peak value)

If we're talking about an actual team as opposed to the 25 best players, then I'm taking Robinson because he can play all four infield positions, plus left field, and can pinch run; and Dihigo because he can play 8 positions well including pitcher.

Sincerest apologies to Jimmie Foxx, Tom Seaver, Mickey Mantle, and Joe DiMaggio.

So as not to be influenced, I did this team before looking at Josh's. I see he beat me to the punch on Dihigo and Robinson. What can I say, diseased minds think alike.

Ack, I forgot Barry Bonds. (Well, actually, he wanted to play, but none of us liked the son of a bitch when he was alive, so we told him to stick it.)

You read my mind. I have been working on a list all week. Mine is a little different in that I simply wrote down the first player that pops into my head when I picture the position. My Epitome team, if you will:

Willie Mays CF
Mike Schmidt 3B
Barry Bonds LF
Babe Ruth RF
Yogi Berra C
Steve Garvey 1B
Ryne Sandberg 2B
Ozzie Smith SS

Sandy Koufax P

I guess if I were to expand this past 9, I would add:

Johnny Bench C
Lou Gehrig 1B (he'd probably end up winning the job over Garvey)
Jackie Robinson Util
Barry Larkin SS
Pete Rose OF, Util*
Rickey Henderson OF
Hank Aaron OF

* Baseball Reference lists Paul Molitor as the player who best compares to Pete Rose with a similarity score of 674. I challenge you to find someone with a lower "highest similarity score". Seriously. It's uncanny. Pete Rose had a career that was beyond compare.

Rotation:
Satchel Paige S
Walter Johnson S
Nolan Ryan S
Bob Gibson S
Pedro Martinez R
Lefty Grove R
Eric Gagne R*
Goose Gossage R
Mariano Rivera C

* I have a soft spot for this guy and am assuming we get these players at their peak.

17 - I see you also have a soft spot for Gagne. Also, I have never heard of Charleston and BR has no stats for him. What is his story?

17: Another vote for Dihigo! This guy fascinates me, not least for having the coolest nickname ever: El Maestro. I don't think there's been a book written about him, and there should be. I was even thinking about pursuing such a project, but it would probably best be tackled by somebody who could speak Spanish and in turn get the most possible out of research trips to Cuba, where he was from and is a legend, and Mexico, where he is also a legend.

Also, I totally see the logic in some folks' choosing true bench players for the bench, but I'm with Eric on this--the bench should be for stars who you could imagine filling certain roles, e.g., Jackie Robinson as an all-purpose fill-in, Ted Williams as the best left-handed pinch-hitter possible, etc.

Glad to see Musial getting some love. He always seems to be the forgotten man in these kinds of discussions.

19: I like the "epitome" method of choosing.

20: Charleston is considered by most to be the best all-around player in Negro Leagues, and also a Cobb-like competitor.

Some more on Charleston:

http://www.nlbpa.com/charleston__oscar.html

I'm tempted to add a platoon combo like Bauer and Woodling. Maybe on the Triple AAA farm team.

22. Thanks

23. - Yes. Jack Bauer would be a tremendous addition to the club.

21 There actually is a biography of Dihigo, but it was written in Spanish and published in Havana, so very few in this country have seen it. I have a copy in storage somewhere.

http://tinyurl.com/ytada3

I can't believe I'm the only one who picked Clemens.

When I get around to it, Eric, I think that Clemens will be on the pitching staff.

I didn't choose Clemens, as I knew the rest of the team wouldn't go for him only being with the team on days he pitches.

26: Some have made the case for Clemens being the best pitcher ever. I can't refute such arguments, but I guess it's just easier for me to go with four other unbelievably well-qualified starters for my rotation when I have memories of Clemens imploding for the Red Sox on the more than one occasion in post-season starts. He just seemed to get too keyed up for those big spots (in all his Red Sox years he had exactly one win in the post-season). I thought about choosing him as my fifth starter/long man but I chose Pedro instead, who turned in one of the most phenomenal pitching performances I've ever seen in relief, against the Indians in the '99 playoffs (Pete Alexander also got a lot of consideration for this spot, having an even more legendary relief appearance in the '26 World Series, but I decided to go with the guy who put up deadball era pitching numbers in the steroid years).

1) Henderson - CF
2) Morgan - 2B
3) Bonds - RF
4) Schmidt - 3B
5) Ruth - LF
6) Wagner - SS
7) Brett - 1B
8) Bench - C
9) Pitcher

On the bench: Gehrig, Mazeroski, Ozzie Smith, Mays, Mantle, and Berra

Starting rotation: Maddux, Grove, Mathewson, Koufax, and Walter Johnson

Bullpen: Randy Johnson, J.R. Richard, John Franco, Nolan Ryan, and Pedro Martinez

Closer: Bruce Sutter

I do the same thing, usually when I'm in a dentist's chair, because it is one of the rare times when I can't bring a book to read.

In one of Robert B. Parker's Spenser novels, he has Spenser do it while he's doing some surveillance, and thus can't read a book.

LF-Henderson
2B-Morgan
RF-Ruth
CF-Mays
1B-Gehrig
C-Gibson
3B-Schmidt
SS-Jeter

Bench-Musial, Williams, Cool Papa Bell, Willie Wells, Rodriguez, Ripken, Bench

Pitchers-
Gibson, SP
Koufax, SP
Walter Johnson, SP
Clemens, SP

Long Men-Wilhelm, Paige
Middle Relief-Bob Feller, Chet Brewer
Short Relief-Trevor Hoffman, Sparky Lyle

Yeah, I know, Jeter. Seriously, though, the man knows how to win baseball games.

My favorite great players.

2B - L - Joe Morgan
CF - R - Willie Mays
LF - L - Ted Williams
Ca - R - Josh Gibson
1B - L - Lou Gehrig
RF - R - Roberto Clemente
3B - L - George Brett
SS - S - Ozzie Smith

Bench - OF Tim Raines (S), OF Tony Gwynn (L) IF Jackie Robinson (R), IF/OF Paul Molitor (R), 1B/SS Ernie Banks (R), C Ivan Rodriguez (R)

Starters:
RHP Bob Gibson
LHP Sandy Koufax
RHP Pedro Martinez
RHP Greg Maddux
LHP Johan Santana

Bullpen:
Closer - RHP - Mariano Rivera
Long man - RHP Mordecai Brown
Setup - RHP John Smoltz, RHP Rich Gossage, RHP Dennis Eckersley, LHP Sparky Lyle

Do I need more LHP in the bullpen? Maybe I should have found room for Babe Ruth.

32 "Maybe I should have found room for Babe Ruth"

Well, at least we've finally found a winner in the Understatement of the Century contest!

Now this is fun.

1b - Gehrig
2b - Morgan
ss - Wagner by a mile.
3b - Schmidt
lf - I'll hold my nose and let Barry in.
cf - Charleston
rf - Ruth
c - Gibson

sp - Clemens
sp - Walter Johnson
sp - Grove
sp - Paige
sp - Seaver

rp - Rivera
rp - Gossage
rp - Eckersley
rp - Sutter
rp - Wilhelm

UTIL - Rose and Robinson

Bench - Mantle, Mays, Cobb, Williams, Berra

Favorite player of all-time: Hank Aaron. Just had to say it.

Manager: Joe McCarthy

NOTES: I've got three guys who can play anywhere on the diamond and play well (Wagner, Rose, Robinson). I've got a loaded bench, a bullpen with the best closers who ever lived (Wilhelm is the long man), five starters all of whom can reasonably considered to be the best pitchers ever and a lineup that is a sabermetricians wet dream.

Barry Bonds will be allowed to have three lockers just like he has now but they will be surrounded by a soundproof wall. He is allowed in the dugout only when he is the on-deck hitter. While in the clubhouse, he must prepare the postgame spread.

30: Hello, John Franco!

31: Hello, Sparky Lyle!

32: Tough luck, Babe!

I would venture to say that the lefty reliever spot (if there needs to be such a thing; didn't the Angels win in '02 with no lefties in the pen?) has the weakest pool to draw from for the sake of this squad. That's not a slam on Lyle and Franco, whose excellence in their roles should probably rate them entrance into the HOF, sez I. In the past, I've decided to fill that slot in the bullpen with Randy Johnson (remember his heroics out of the pen for the Mariners during the '95 playoffs against the Yankees?); this time I switched in fellow lefty smoke-thrower Rube Waddell for the dour Johnson, mainly for the sake of overall team harmony and enjoyment. But I do wonder who is the best lefty reliever in baseball history. (And is Billy Wagner within striking distance?)

Hey Bruin-

Ever hear the joke McCarthy used to tell? He's dead and in heaven, and Satan calls to challenge him to a baseball game. McCarthy looks around at Ruth, Mathewson, Young, and Gehrig, and says "Sure, but I don't know how you're going to win. I have all the players."

"Yes," Satan replies. "But I have all the umpires."

36 :)

35 I spend 5 minutes poking around Baseball-Reference looking for LH relief before I posted my team and considered Billy Wagner. Wagner has been a lot better than I would have guessed. Another thing I found when trying to fill out my bench is that Derek Jeter has already played something like 595 more career games at SS than Ernie Banks.

I almost put Jim Eisenreich on my team as a bench player but I thought it would take too long to explain myself. I should have done it. Eisenreich didn't know he had Tourette's Syndrome until he was 27 years old and up until that point it was thought he was too nervous or odd to hack playing in the big leagues. Eisenreich is one of my all-time favorite players. He put up some stout numbers as a part-time player late in his career including a stout .500/.636/.875 in the '97 WS. OK it was only 8ABs but I still like Eisenreich.

LF-R. Henderson
2B-J. Morgan
RF-B. Ruth
CF-M. Mantle
1B-M. McGwire
3B-M. Schmidt
C-J. Bench
SS-O. Smith

Bench:
C-I. Rodriguez
Util-P.Rose
Util-J. Robinson
OF-T. Williams
OF-W. Mays

SP-B. Gibson
SP-P. Martinez
SP-S. Koufax
SP-G. Maddux
SP-R. Clemens

Closer-D.Eckersley
Setup-M.Rivera
RP-D. Quisenberry
RP-R. Fingers
RP-S. Paige
RP-H. Wilhelm
P-J. Santana

This is a lot of fun!

19 I have a soft spot for this guy and am assuming we get these players at their peak. -- This guided my attempt, as in the early 80s, there was a game from SSI called Computer Baseball, and it would be exactly this kind of thing I'd do: put in stats from the best years of the best players and see how consistently they'd stomp any other team.

So, I relied heavily on BP's DT Cards, using all-time adjusted WARP3s, EQAs and DERAs to guide my choices.

Player, 'Yr : WARP3 / EQA
C Piazza, '97 : 12.1 / .360
1B Gherig, '27 : 13.8 / .375
2B Hornsby, '24 : 16.0 /.378
SS Wagner, '08 : 15.4 / .356
3B Schmidt, '81 : 13.3 / .360
LF Williams, '46 : 15.6 / .392
CF Mays, '55 : 13.9 / .346
RF Ruth, '23 : 18.3 / .401

C Bench, '72 : 12.9 /.332
1B Pujols, 2006 : 13.0 / .356
2B Morgan, '75 : 14.2 / .355
SS Rodriguez, 2000 : 15.4 /.346
UT Robinson '51 : 14.1 / .331
OF Cobb, '17 : 14.3 / .360
OF Mantle, '57 : 14.5 / .400
OF Henderson, '90 : 13.8/ .374

Player, 'Yr : WARP3 / DERA
RSP Gibson, '68 : 13.9 / 2.49
LSP Koufax, '66 : 12.4 / 2.72
RSP Johnson, '13 : 18.3 / 2.35
LSP Carlton, '72 : 15.4 / 2.66
RSP Martinez, P. 2000: 14.4 / 1.75

RRP Gagne, '03 : 10.2 / 1.62
RRP Rivera, '01 : 9.0 / 2.45
RRP Sutter, '77 : 9.0 / 1.76
LRP Wagner, 2003 : 8.1 / 2.13

I suppose this would be more formulaic if I had an all-time database listing players by annual WARP3 performance, so it was a bit of who I like and how they performed. I think I used the numbers to validate thoughts as much as to determine who...

I put Rickey Henderson on the roster last, primarily to have one tactical option if I wanted a stolen base if Cobb was feeling crabby.

The pitching staff is comprised on the notion that the only starter who won't go at least 8 innings is Pedro, or, that if there was a pitcher who could only go six, I'd have three one-inning specialists and a LOOGY to close out the game. I love the idea of breezing into town for a four game series, knowing the opponent has to face Walter Johnson and Steve Carlton after getting beaten by Bob Gibson and Sandy Koufax... He he!

Lastly, I just... could... not... bring... myself... to... add: Bonds, '01 : 16.2 / .427

Keep the rosters comin'. At some point I'll tally up the lists and come up with a consensus team.

As of now, it looks like Barry Bonds might not make such a consensus squad. The thing that's always made it a little easier for me to avoid him leave him off is that I've got the following two guys ahead of him in left field: Cobb, who was widely considered the greatest player ever for the better half of the 20th Century (I think that's correct, anyway, that it took Ruth a while to pass Cobb in the general thinking), and Ted Williams, arguably the greatest hitter who ever lived. (And then there's Rickey Henderson, the perfect leadoff man.) For a few years there, though, Bonds was more dominant than anyone has ever been, except maybe the Babe. I wonder how people are going to think about him in 50 years, when the impact of his shady aura and repellent personality have been diminished by time.

38: I always rooted for Eisenreich, too.

41 Excellent point about Bonds' "shady aura and repellent personality". Consider Ty Cobb's! Not having to live through it makes it easier for me to put Cobb on my roster.

I wonder how much I'd be concerned about leading off with a guy like Henderson when I can't even figure out what the middle of the order should be like, with so many mashers there! Hm. Hornsby, Mays, Williams, Ruth, Gherig, Piazza, Schmidt, Wagner, pitcher. Holy cow, I just put Piazza and Schmidt at 6th and 7th, and a guy whose translated OPS is 1.19 hitting eighth. Who the heck are these mythical teams going to play against, anyway? Aliens?

42 Who the heck are these mythical teams going to play against, anyway? Aliens?

LOL.

One of these days, I'll compile my team Josh. I'll probably mention it in a completely unrelated thread.

Off the cuff version:

C Gibson
1b Gehrig
2b Morgan
3b Brett
SS Wagner
LF Bonds
CF Mantle
RF Ruth
DH T Williams

SP Clemens
SP Grove
SP Johnson
SP Koufax

C Elston Howard
IF Tony Phillips
OF John Lowenstein
PH Manny Mota
PH-C Smoky Burgess
PR Bert Campineras (can alo fill in everywhere)

Longman/Swingman Steamer Stanley
Situational Lefty Sparky Lyle.
RP Hoyt Wilhelm
RP Satchel Paige
RP Jim Creighton
RP Sidd Finch

I'm not sure if any of you saw this on Ken Jenning's blog (http://www.ken-jennings.com/blog/), but he has a neat baseball trivia question:

" Consider the universe of baseball statistics. Forget about ones that are averages, and thus a player's score can go up or down over time — batting average, ERA, slugging percentage, and the like. Focus on the ones that accumulate. Also, forget about statistics that nobody tracks, like ground rule doubles in extra innings under a full moon on astroturf. Stay with statistics that people have actually heard of.

Now consider that among such statistics there's the concept of one category being a special case of another. If you do one, you necessarily do the other, but not vice versa (otherwise two statistics would be called "synonyms"). A perfect game is a special case of a no-hitter. A double is a special case of a hit. An at-bat is a special case of a plate appearance. A save is a special case of a game played, but a hit is not because you can have any number of hits in a game.

At last, the question. There are two statistics, one of which is a special case of the other. The career leaders in the two categories — the guys who did each the most times — are different men with the same first and middle names. Who are they?"

Someone told me the answer, so I'm ineligible.

Henry Louis Aaron - Home runs
Henry Louis Gehrig - Grand slam home runs

I have a similar trivia question to 45 without the star power.

Two players with the same first and middle name. One started his career with the Dodgers, one ended his career with the Dodgers. As a rookie, the younger man was managed by the older man. As a rookie, the older man was a teammate of the man who managed the younger man's last season. Who are the two men?

clue - You can't spell the older man's last name in Welsh.

45: Great question. I thought of the answer while drifting off to sleep, then when I got up Bob had beaten me to it.

Yet another reason why I'll be sad when Hammerin' Hank is no longer at the top of the homer heap. (I think Manny's creeping up on Gehrig's record, too.)

47: I'm stumped.

So I tallied up the votes. If anybody still feels like adding their rosters, please do so, and I'll recount, but as of now, here's the consensus for the first 24 of the 25-man roster to face off against the aliens (note: I used total votes as the deciding factor, but noted the breakdown of starter versus bench-player votes each player received; the one player who benefitted from this the most is Ted Williams, who got only 2 starting votes but tied for Mays and Ruth for most votes of any player):

Starters:

Ruth, OF: 11 votes (11 starter, 0 bench)
Mays, OF: 11 votes (8 starter, 3 bench)
Williams, OF: 11 (2s, 9b)
Schmidt, 3B: 10 (9s, 1b)
Gehrig, 1B: 10 (8s, 2b)
Morgan, 2b: 9 (7s, 2b)
J. Gibson, C: 8 (8s)
Wagner, SS: 7 (6s, 1b)

Reserves:
J. Robinson, util: 7 (7b)
Bench, C: 7 (3s, 4b)
Henderson, OF: 6 (4s, 2b)
Smith, SS: 5 (4s, 1b)
Bonds, OF: 5 (4s, 1b)
Cobb, OF: 5 (2s, 3b)
Mantle, OF: 5 (2s, 3b)

Pitchers:
Koufax, 10 votes
W. Johnson, 9
Paige, 8
Grove, 7
Martinez, 7
Rivera, 7
Wilhelm, 6
Clemens, 5
B. Gibson, 5

So those are 24 guys. Fighting for the last roster spot are four hitters and two pitchers with 4 votes each: Brett (4s), Hornsby (4s), Charleston (2s, 2b), Rose (4b), Maddux, and Gossage.

My favorite in the extensive "also received votes" category is Jim Creighton, the legendary pitcher from the very earliest days of pro baseball.

In a baseball sim I like for fun, I just faced off the '78 Yankees (for no good reason other than to beat up on them) against the all-time team I posted above).

With Dick Tidrow giving up 7 runs in the first 1 1/3 innings, the computer manager just brought in:

Rich Gossage!

So next is worst team ever right?

late to the party, sort of:

R. Henderson CF
J. Morgan 2b
L. Gehrig 1b
G.H. Ruth RF
Ba. Bonds LF
H. Wagner SS
A. Rodriguez 3b
L. Berra C

S. Koufax SP
R. Clemens SP
P. Martinez SP
B. Gibson SP
S. Paige SP

J. Bench
J. Robinson
H. Killebrew
R. Yount
H. Aaron
S. Musial

M. Rivera RP
R. Gossage RP
H. Wilhelm RP
B. Sutter RP
R. Fingers RP
J. Smoltz RP

Sort of breaking my own rule. Screw it.

52: That ballot settles the 25th man issue raised in 49: it's the man who kicked the whole discussion off in the first place, the Goose!