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Welcome to the Red Sox-Indians Game 3 Chat, Broham
2007-10-15 14:56
by Josh Wilker
 

 
When did the surfer/frat-boy slang term broham come into existence? I feel as if I may have heard it back in 1987 when I spent a summer in California, but I'm not sure. Anyway, I wonder if utility infielder Jack Brohamer would have been more well-known if the term had been around in his day. 

As it was, Brohamer came and went without leaving much of a trace. He played for a few years in Cleveland, his only departure from anonimity coming in his role as the unwitting Archduke Franz Ferdinand of the 10-Cent Beer Night riot (as mentioned previously on Cardboard Gods, Len Randle's hard slide into Brohamer at second base in Texas led to a beaning of Randle, which led to a fight and the pelting of Indians players by Texas fans, which led to a night for the ages on the Rangers' next trip to Cleveland). He went on to play two years for the White Sox, the most stunning legacy from that era the fact that in 1976 Brohamer was intentionally walked 9 times (the player who most often followed him in the lineup was named Bucky Dent), then played for the Boston Red Sox for a couple years before returning to Cleveland for one more brief and inconsequential go-round.

The closest he ever got to the playoffs was when he started at third base for the Red Sox in the 1978 one-game divisional play-in game against the Yankees. Brohamer had been having an excellent season as a part-time player for most of the year, his batting average over .300 as late as July 9, then after a slump climbing back to .270 by August 28, when the Red Sox held a 7½-game lead over the second-place Yankees. From that point on, however, Brohamer, forced into playing nearly every day by injuries to second baseman Jerry Remy and third baseman Butch Hobson, collected just 10 hits in 69 at bats for a sickly .145 batting average.

But nobody blames Jack Brohamer for the collapse. In some ways I've always aspired to this level of culpability in my life. I don't want to be held responsible. I don't want anyone cursing my name. Better to just stick to the sidelines, the shadows, and let someone else get the glory or take the fall. Better to just Brohamer it.

Meanwhile, I live vicariously through game-playing strangers, drawing as close as possible to them in my imagination in their times of triumph, and distancing them as much as possible from me with curses and even hatred when they stumble.

With that in mind, here are the lineups for today's Game Three of the deadlocked American League Championship Series (7:10 ET, FOX), courtesy of Ameile Benjamin's Boston Globe blog:

Red Sox
1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. Mike Lowell, 3B
6. J.D. Drew, RF
7. Jason Varitek, C
8. Coco Crisp, CF
9. Julio Lugo, SS

SP - Daisuke Matsuzaka

Indians
1. Grady Sizemore, CF
2. Asdrubal Cabrera, 2B
3. Travis Hafner, DH
4. Victor Martinez, C
5. Ryan Garko, 1B
6. Jhonny Peralta, SS
7. Kenny Lofton, LF
8. Trot Nixon, RF
9. Casey Blake, 3B

SP - Jake Westbrook

Comments (119)
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2007-10-15 15:03:12
1.   ToyCannon
Nixons single trumps Franklins bomb.
2007-10-15 15:15:12
2.   Josh Wilker
I guess Trot has had a pretty rough year this year up until that big hit on Saturday, the kind of year that seems to suggest it might be the end of the line. I'm glad if anybody had to do in the Red Sox the other night it was him. All my life I vowed that if the Red Sox ever won a world series the guys who did it would be golden to me forever, and I'm sticking to that vow (even with Johnny Damon, though I prefer not to think about the current job of that member of the '04 team too much).
2007-10-15 15:23:14
3.   Bob Timmermann
Jack Brohamer was born in Maywood, California.

Which I think is hard to do because I didn't know there were any hospitals in that burg. The city is but 1.2 square miles.

But Maywood does have a pro basketball team.

http://abalive.com/teams/teampage.cgi?teamid=OC

2007-10-15 15:24:35
4.   Jimi Shelter
Well, we were calling people "brohammer" in Oxnard, California in the early 70's, broham. But I don't know where it started.
2007-10-15 15:33:14
5.   Josh Wilker
4 : Thanks for that info, Jimi. As Peter Boyle's character, Wizard, said of California during a rare calm reflective moment in Taxi Driver: "Well, they're way ahead out there."

3 : Could it be possible that the term originated with Maywood's native son?

Also, on another subject, I let the practice of mentioning new comments on older posts slide a little of late because, well, that's how I roll, but I did want to point out new comments from prodigal Cardboard God commenter Catfish326 on posts for Greg Minton, the 1977 Cubs, and the Rick Miller-hosted Angels-Red Sox Game 1 chat (that last comment an interesting point about the astounding defensive capabilities of the 1975 Red Sox outfield). Also, CMcFood continues his tracking of pictures of the Oakland Coliseum in a post on Bobby Bonds (located in the "Behold the Unsortable" sidebar).

2007-10-15 16:06:25
6.   Bob Timmermann
As I was just out for a walk to load up for food for the game, a bus stopped by me. It was Metro 260. Its destination was Cudahy.

Cudahy is probably the only city in L.A. County that is worse than Maywood.

2007-10-15 16:15:13
7.   Bob Timmermann
Ahh, 4-5-3!
2007-10-15 16:24:13
8.   Bob Timmermann
Tim McCarver is trying to put stats into context.

I better check the coffee I'm drinking to make sure it's not dosed.

2007-10-15 16:25:56
9.   Josh Wilker
Bottom of first: Wham, bam, arigato, ma'am.
2007-10-15 16:27:31
10.   underdog
If the Sox are gonna win tonight, I hope Gagne gets the win or save. Just to keep him from being burned in effigy.
2007-10-15 16:34:41
11.   Josh Wilker
Hilarious Dikembe Mutombo finger wave from Lofton to Manny...
2007-10-15 16:35:40
12.   Josh Wilker
10 : I think they'll be really reluctant to go to Gagne, but I'm rooting for him to come through whenever he does get a chance. For Drew, too.
2007-10-15 16:39:40
13.   underdog
Yowsa, talk about a high wire act for Westbrook that inning.
2007-10-15 16:41:42
14.   underdog
Was that fly ball to Lofton shallower than it looked on gameday? I'm assuming so...

12 Yeah, but while Gagne would care what we think, Drew probably doesn't. JD Drew, a.k.a. the "Shrug"

2007-10-15 16:42:43
15.   Bob Timmermann
The fly ball to Lofton was not very deep and he was coming in on the ball.

Even Lofton's pop gun would have had a good chance at getting Manny at the plate.

2007-10-15 16:45:08
16.   Josh Wilker
15 : Yeah, that's what made the finger wag so funny.

They just showed some white dudes in the crowd in headresses and full "Indian" face paint. What's the difference between that and a bunch of white dudes in blackface?

2007-10-15 16:46:40
17.   Bob Timmermann
It's the October of Kenny!
2007-10-15 16:46:50
18.   Bluebleeder87
maybe cause we don't see them that often or maybe cause we're so use to the MLB uni's but I'm digging the Japan Uni's specially the white with black pin stripes Matzusaka was sporting (& NO it didn't look NOTHING like the spankees uni)
2007-10-15 16:46:53
19.   underdog
I find Braves fans' "tomahawk chop" patently offensive enough, so I'm glad I didn't see that.
2007-10-15 16:47:30
20.   Bluebleeder87
I kind of miss Kenny Lofton, he's got a better arm then Pierre & apparently he also has more POP!!
2007-10-15 16:48:55
21.   bhsportsguy
Joe Morgan just said that Kenny Lofton is a veteran and he knew that the Dice-K was throwing fast balls to get ahead in the count so he just jumped on the first pitch and bingo, a home run.
2007-10-15 16:49:58
22.   Andrew Shimmin
Lugo did something that wasn't horrible.

Huh.

2007-10-15 16:50:36
23.   Marty
He's right, Lofton is a veteran. Everything else is Morgo-speak
2007-10-15 16:51:26
24.   Sam DC
20 Well, yeah, but we've got Juan Pierre for four more years.

So there's that.

2007-10-15 16:56:08
25.   Marty
24 Yeah, I bet Pierre is way better than Lofton in 2011.
2007-10-15 16:56:16
26.   underdog
I don't know if Lofton can make it 4 more years, but I'll reiterate my early membership in the RLTPC (Rather Lofton Than Pierre Club).

Red Sox fans have my permission to loathe Julio Lugo.

2007-10-15 16:57:03
27.   fordprefect
24
You just had to remind me.
2007-10-15 17:00:41
28.   Bob Timmermann
Royce Clayton: still employed.
2007-10-15 17:02:43
29.   fordprefect
I heard Miller & Morgan broadcast the first inning on the way home from work, and couldn't quite figure out what Miller's "hula" remark was referring to, but now when I see Matsuzaka's delivery, all i can think of is grass skirts and coconut-shell brassieres.
2007-10-15 17:05:07
30.   Andrew Shimmin
28- As a mic stand.
2007-10-15 17:06:47
31.   Josh Wilker
29 : I think Dice-K needs the "hula." He seems a lot iffier pitching from the stretch.
2007-10-15 17:12:13
32.   Josh Wilker
Two more questions:

Why do the white-glag-waving Indians fans keep trying to signal their surrender?

How does Eric Wedge (or anyone) maintain that "I last shaved two days ago" look? Every time I see him he looks like he shaved two days ago.

2007-10-15 17:13:11
33.   Josh Wilker
32 : That should have been "white-flag-waving." Though now I wish there were something called a glag so I could wave it.
2007-10-15 17:13:49
34.   Bob Timmermann
32
It's Fox, so they send Hugh Laurie's personal stylist to work on him.

You're risking a pitcher's arm!

2007-10-15 17:18:42
35.   Bob Timmermann
Wow, that play was Steven Drew-like in its incompetence.
2007-10-15 17:22:27
36.   Bluebleeder87
J.D. Drew would make a nice Mic stand as well. [drum beat]
2007-10-15 17:22:43
37.   Bob Timmermann
When I went to Wrigley this year, I saw the Cubs get four straight hits and not score a run off of them.

However, there was a fifth hit in the inning and it was a grand slam.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200706030.shtml

2007-10-15 17:24:06
38.   Bluebleeder87
Garko showing off his cat like reflexes.
2007-10-15 17:27:13
39.   Josh Wilker
Something about Big Papi getting hit by that ball suggests that when he gets old he's going to get old fast.

On that note, Papi's creaky knees and Schilling looking old and tired and Manny's slightly down year and Varitek's ever-quieter bat have me thinking this could be the Red Sox' last good chance at a World Series for a while.

2007-10-15 17:29:41
40.   Bluebleeder87
39

You guys have a few good young ball players I'm sure the BoSox will be o.k.

2007-10-15 17:34:10
41.   Sam DC
So, I just used that commercial break to watch the full opening credits from Perfect Strangers (now running on Ion), which is practically a kitsch opera unto itself. Do any shows do the long form opening credits you see there, or are they all pretty much the quick cut, squished down type thing you see in a Scrubs or Will and Grace?

What would Barney Miller have been without its opening tune?

2007-10-15 17:34:34
42.   Josh Wilker
40 Yeah, some, and I like the young guys a lot, but if Manny and Papi fade at the same time they'll be irreplacable (unless Gehrig and Ruth are brought back from the grave).
2007-10-15 17:39:12
43.   Bob Timmermann
Under the new CBA, the Yankees were guaranteed to the rights to any sepulchral figures.
2007-10-15 17:41:29
44.   Josh Wilker
43 : But I thought there was a clause in that that gave the Red Sox the right to any temporarily deceased players currently residing at an Arizona cryogenics lab.
2007-10-15 17:44:14
45.   Bob Timmermann
The Tampa Bay Devil Rays are allowed to sign anyone they can find in a columbarium.
2007-10-15 17:50:20
46.   Bluebleeder87
I don't know but Matzusaka just doesn't impress me all that much, I mean yeah, when he's right his a good # 2 but I don't think he's worth ALL that money, my 2 cents.
2007-10-15 17:51:54
47.   underdog
Wow, 90 pitches already for Dice-K. Definitely not long for this one...
2007-10-15 17:52:04
48.   Sam DC
(Bob - I'm guessing Mark won't mind if you use your powers to rescue his latest post title.)
2007-10-15 17:52:52
49.   Bob Timmermann
48
I don't have that power. Ken can do it.
2007-10-15 17:59:00
50.   goodgloveweakbat
I hate it when Dice-K gets to 0-2. He then starts trying to throw the perfect pitch. He must have led the league in 0-2 counts turning into walks.
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2007-10-15 18:00:34
51.   Bob Timmermann
So if we asked Thierry Henry where he was yesterday, he wouldn't know the answer?
2007-10-15 18:01:30
52.   Josh Wilker
46 : He's utterly hittable and has been since a little after midseason. Maybe next year he'll be better acquainted to the 5-man rotation and the longer season, but my gut feeling is that what we see is what we're gonna get--a half-decent 3rd or 4th starter (who's going to start getting booed because he's not a 1 or 2).
2007-10-15 18:05:49
53.   Hallux Valgus
51 probably not, since he was likely still in the Faroe Islands. Does anyone know where Torshavn is?
2007-10-15 18:08:06
54.   Bluebleeder87
52

I was gonna say #3 starter but I thought you were gonna get offended so I stand pat on it. :o)

2007-10-15 18:08:38
55.   Bob Timmermann
53
It's right here:
http://tinyurl.com/2nl75n
2007-10-15 18:10:32
56.   Hallux Valgus
55 Well that explains it. I knew I should've taken a right when I got to the middle of nowhere.
2007-10-15 18:10:33
57.   Andrew Shimmin
Matsuzaka gave up six walks after getting an 0-2 count this year.
2007-10-15 18:12:38
58.   Bluebleeder87
Matzusaka's arm also has a lot of miles on it, but like you said maybe he'll put it all together next year, this is his 1st full season so maybe he can still do it.
2007-10-15 18:13:01
59.   Bob Timmermann
I've been to a Faroe Islands World Cup qualifier.

It was in Belgium.

2007-10-15 18:15:23
60.   bhsportsguy
Joe Morgan just gave the old if Big Papi hits a home run the rally is over speech.

And I thought only Steve Lyons thought that way but I guess they played the game so who am I to refute it.

2007-10-15 18:16:08
61.   Bluebleeder87
I don't know why but I was looking at Franklin Stubbs #'s just for the hell of it, MAN! he sucked! I can't believe good 'ol Tommy let him stick around for as long as he did. I don't even remember what position he played, I remember him playing 1st base at times & I think LF, I guess it shouldn't surprised me but it does.
2007-10-15 18:17:57
62.   bhsportsguy
61 You will find that based on current understandings of OPS and the like, that many beloved players were just average at best.

In otherwords, they were a lot of Juan Pierres back in the 1970s.

2007-10-15 18:20:35
63.   Hallux Valgus
61 also, it's not like there were a lot of options, unless you want to throw Mike Davis out there every day.
2007-10-15 18:21:22
64.   bhsportsguy
The way this is going, it better be a barnburner at Coors Field tonight. They might not hit 230 pitches total in this game.
2007-10-15 18:23:10
65.   Bob Timmermann
Bobby Richardson is considered a Yankees hero.

He had a lifetime OPS+ of 77.

In 1961, Richardson batted leadoff most of the year. He had an OBP of .295.

The Yankees still won 109 games.

2007-10-15 18:23:14
66.   Josh Wilker
62 I guess Hall of Fame Lou Brock being the Cadillac of that kind of pre-OPS-knowledge jalopy.
2007-10-15 18:24:53
67.   Bob Timmermann
66
Nor did anyone seem to care that Lou Brock fielded like Lonnie Smith.
2007-10-15 18:26:41
68.   Josh Wilker
I can't believe I'm talking about Lou Brock while my team sputters toward a pivotal loss. I'm enraged and nervous. Where's the other Red Sox fan who shows up here from time to time, Spudrph?!?
2007-10-15 18:28:33
69.   Sam DC
This game -- not over.
2007-10-15 18:28:43
70.   Bob Timmermann
The Yankees had figured out Westbrook by this point.
2007-10-15 18:31:28
71.   Josh Wilker
These lifeless Bopsox need a speech from the Strother Martin character in Slapshot:

"Every scout in the [majors] is out there tonight, with contracts in their pockets, and they're looking for talent. For winners. OOOOOOOOOH. All my years of publicity. All the fashion shows and radiothons for nothing... They come here tonight... to scout the [Red Sox]... the toughest team in the [American] League. Not this. Buncha... pussies."

2007-10-15 18:31:38
72.   Josh Wilker
These lifeless Bosox need a speech from the Strother Martin character in Slapshot:

"Every scout in the [majors] is out there tonight, with contracts in their pockets, and they're looking for talent. For winners. OOOOOOOOOH. All my years of publicity. All the fashion shows and radiothons for nothing... They come here tonight... to scout the [Red Sox]... the toughest team in the [American] League. Not this. Buncha... pussies."

2007-10-15 18:32:00
73.   Andrew Shimmin
Matt Cain gave up 11 BBs after an 0-2 count.
2007-10-15 18:35:36
74.   goodgloveweakbat
Come on, Captain! Go to the opposite field, for the love of Mike. Stop trying to yank it out.
2007-10-15 18:36:00
75.   goodgloveweakbat
Never mind.
2007-10-15 18:36:21
76.   Sam DC
Well, goodglove?
2007-10-15 18:36:56
77.   Sam DC
(just imagine 76 up above 75)
2007-10-15 18:37:32
78.   goodgloveweakbat
Reverse psychology.
2007-10-15 18:38:57
79.   Sam DC
LOL.
2007-10-15 18:39:16
80.   Bluebleeder87
Coco Crisp has that L.A. look about him on his gameday pic, that I can't quite pin point though.
2007-10-15 18:40:51
81.   bhsportsguy
65 It helps when you had 115 home runs from two outfielders.
2007-10-15 18:42:02
82.   Bob Timmermann
Perhaps Coco Crisp has an L.A. look to him because he's from L.A.
2007-10-15 18:43:22
83.   bhsportsguy
Next year, Jake Westwood begins his 3 year extension deal with the Indians for 11 million a year.
2007-10-15 18:43:40
84.   Bob Timmermann
I will be edgy and dislike the AT&T commericals because Wes Anderson directed them.
2007-10-15 18:43:47
85.   Josh Wilker
Tonight I will pray that Francona benches Coco for Ellsbury. He cannot hit.
2007-10-15 18:44:19
86.   Bob Timmermann
83
Jake Westwood

You spend too much time on the UCLA campus.

2007-10-15 18:46:11
87.   bhsportsguy
86 No, too much time on UCLA websites.
2007-10-15 18:47:04
88.   Sam DC
If I could have one baseball tv related wish, it would be that announcers could not make a big show of their insight that pitchers need to throw strikes, and getting strike 1 is real good.
2007-10-15 18:47:30
89.   Sam DC
This guys delivery looks sped up.
2007-10-15 18:47:36
90.   goodgloveweakbat
Question: Does Bud Selig's authority to act "in the best interest of the game" allow him to take steps to prevent a Cleveland-Colorado World Series?
2007-10-15 18:49:43
91.   Bob Timmermann
90
The only downside of a Cleveland-Colorado World Series is that there would be numerous mentions of my archenemy: John Elway.
2007-10-15 18:51:32
92.   spudrph
Josh-"Archduke Franz Ferdinand"? Brilliant. Fucking BRILLIANT.

Is Pedroia ever going to get another hit?

How did we go from the third most runs in the league to Papi, Bad Man, and the seven dwarfs?

I don't want the baseball season to be over yet.

2007-10-15 18:52:15
93.   bhsportsguy
91
Marty ball, Dan Reeves, Bill Bellichek, Ernest Byner, "The Drive."
2007-10-15 18:54:16
94.   Josh Wilker
We gotta hold 'em and then get a run in the 8th plus enough runners to get the good hitters up against Borowski in the 9th.
2007-10-15 18:55:04
95.   Sam DC
94 Aren't those the guys who are going to get you the run in the 8th?
2007-10-15 18:55:42
96.   spudrph
Does Budweiser really need to advertise? I don't drink, so I don't know, but I would think that anybody who drinks beer at all is aware that there is an American beer known as Budweiser? Like Lewis Black says, we get it.
2007-10-15 18:56:16
97.   Bob Timmermann
It's Youkilis, Ortiz, and Ramirez due up.
2007-10-15 18:57:16
98.   Bob Timmermann
96
They need to advertise or people will forget about them and the market share won't grow.

If the number of Budweiser drinkers remains constant, the company would go out of business.

In about 100 years.

2007-10-15 19:00:52
99.   Bluebleeder87
In about 100 years.

LOL!

2007-10-15 19:01:36
100.   Marty
93 Hey, what's wrong with Marty ball?
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2007-10-15 19:02:33
101.   Marty
If they don't advertise, how are 16-year-olds supposed to know what to drink?
2007-10-15 19:04:19
102.   Sam DC
"Um, I'll give you $40 bucks if you get me a case of whatever you're getting."
2007-10-15 19:04:24
103.   Josh Wilker
95 : Yeah, the plan is put some guys on, get a run, and get the lineup down to at least 7 or 8, then all you gotta do is get a guy or two on and Ortiz comes up--I don't have all the details down, I just want somebody besides a threesome of Tek, Crisp, and Lugo against Borowski.
2007-10-15 19:08:08
104.   Bluebleeder87
I guess once every blue moon Youkilis hits the ball the other way, man, he seems like a dead pull hitter to me.
2007-10-15 19:08:43
105.   Marty
102 Sam, that brings back memories. But when I was doing that, a case of Budweiser was $6.
2007-10-15 19:10:30
106.   Sam DC
Well, I first typed $20, but I was afraid people would make fun of me.
2007-10-15 19:10:57
107.   Bluebleeder87
Ortiz smoked that one right at Franklin Gutierrez.
2007-10-15 19:14:43
108.   Ennui Willie Keeler
Hey, Josh. Brohamer has a brother named Tom who is an expert handicapper. Even has a book published about horseracing.
2007-10-15 19:16:23
109.   Bob Timmermann
I am the luckiest man on earth. In the last 10 minutes, I have won an Irish Sweepstakes, UK Lottery, and a Powerball.

That's what my email says.

It wouldn't lie to me.

2007-10-15 19:16:34
110.   Josh Wilker
So much for the plan.

108 : Interesting...

2007-10-15 19:19:00
111.   Bluebleeder87
109

I'm sure you just delete them right out of your life right Bob, man, I hate that!.

2007-10-15 19:20:52
112.   Bob Timmermann
But I thought I was a winner! Dang it.

Time to go picture-in-picture for a while.

2007-10-15 19:31:56
113.   Bluebleeder87
J.D. Drew's sabby OBP would be nice hear for BoSox fans I imagine.
2007-10-15 19:33:04
114.   Sam DC
Do you mean savvy (like sharp, smart)?
2007-10-15 19:35:15
115.   Bob Timmermann
Before the playoffs started, I had no idea what Mark Shapiro looked like.

He's got red hair. Go figure!

2007-10-15 19:35:50
116.   Sam DC
You can tell that on picture in picture?
2007-10-15 19:40:18
117.   Josh Wilker
Wow, those Indians fans are pretty happy.
2007-10-15 19:47:29
118.   Andrew Shimmin
I don't care how many times the announcers say it, I'm not pronouncing Shapiro, shuh-PIE-roe.
2007-10-15 20:20:55
119.   El Lay Dave
118 "You say Shuh-PEER-roe, I say Shuh-PIE-roe ......"
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