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Indians-Red Sox Game 7 Chat (updated with lineups)
2007-10-21 07:10
by Josh Wilker
 

 
If you were able to resurrect anyone in his prime from the history of your favorite team to pitch the seventh game of a playoff series, whom would you choose? The Red Sox have a lot of worthy candidates, including the two current roster members who have enabled the Red Sox to climb out of a 3 games to 1 hole against the Cleveland Indians and force the all or nothing deciding game tonight (FOX; 8:23 ET). Both of these men, already October legends, turned in impressive performances, the smirkingly confident Beckett simply wrecking the Indians with blazing fastballs and darting curves, and the aging, top-heavy Schilling, who looked throughout the game like a long-sedentary office worker who’d just been forced by an elevator malfunction to take five flights of stairs, somehow keeping the Indians at bay with his assortment of batting practice heaves.

I’d be happy if either one of these able fellows could somehow take the mound tonight on full rest (Beckett does indeed appear ready to pitch in relief), but they wouldn’t be my first choice if I could reach back into history for anyone. They’d have a lot of good company among the pitchers passed over for the job, including:

Cy Young. The winner of all imagined conversations in pitching heaven, e.g.: "Wow, that is a lot of Cy Young awards you’ve got there. No doubt about it. Hm? What’s that? What’s my name? Why don’t you ask one of your little trophies. You know, on your way to getting your shinebox."

Smokey Joe Wood. His 1912 season was one of the greatest ever. Also the possessor of the coolest name for a pitcher ever, with the possible exception of Blue Moon Odom. Incidentally, he is a member of the all-time team of Red Sox-Indians; after arm trouble killed his pitching career he made a comeback as a part-time outfielder with the Cleveland Indians, helping them win the 1920 World Series.

Babe Ruth. Really tough not to pick the Babe, who for many years held the record for most consecutive shutout innings in World Series play; plus, of course, he could bat and let the DH David Ortiz hit for Julio Lugo (by the way, has the DH ever been used for anybody but the pitcher?)

Roger Clemens. The numbers in context point to him as quite possibly the author of the greatest regular season pitching career of all time, and if he were on the mound tonight for the Red Sox, in his prime, I wouldn’t complain, but I’d also be a little worried about an overpumped bat-throwing ump-berating meltdown.

Pedro Martinez. The dominant, fearless maestro. When Clemens was at his peak for the Red Sox I was gratefully aware that we had one of the best pitchers in the game; when Pedro was at his peak for the Red Sox I often found myself wondering if we had the best pitcher who ever lived.

But if I could pick one player from Red Sox history to pitch tonight’s game, I’d follow the thinking of former Red Sox manager Darrell Johnson, who once said, "If a man put a gun to my head and said I’m going to pull the trigger if you lose this game, I’d want Luis Tiant to pitch that game."

Luis Tiant came through in many a big game for the Red Sox, and I believe he should be in the Hall of Fame. But those are not the sole reasons for my choice. Part of the reason has to do with the element of resurrection in his career. After breaking in with the Cleveland Indians, where he authored a season for the ages in 1968, Tiant appeared done as a pitcher in the early 1970s. These terse lines from the transaction section of his page on Baseball Reference.com tell the story:

March 31, 1971: Released by the Minnesota Twins.
April 16, 1971: Signed as a Free Agent with the Atlanta Braves.
May 15, 1971: Released by the Atlanta Braves.

Picked up, dumped, picked up again, dumped again. The Red Sox took a chance on him and to their credit stuck with him throughout 1971 as he compiled a putrid 1 and 7 record. The following season he turned things around, and for most of the rest of the decade he was once again among the best pitchers on the globe. He had been finished, a Hefty bag left on the curb, but he came all the way back, resurrected.

But the theme of resurrection isn’t, in the end, the deciding factor for me, though it feeds into it. Here’s the main reason I’d give the ball to Luis Tiant:

Joy.

Luis Tiant not only dominated in big games, he entertained, he enchanted, he enthralled. He toyed with batters with his wide assortment of bedeviling pitches and his looping corkscrew windup (the most imitated big league gyration of my childhood), and in doing so and by the sheer magnetism of his ebullient personality he played the entire packed house at Fenway like it was the world’s biggest and loudest musical instrument, a thumping, chanting, cheering organ of hope and celebration.

If you’re going to play a game seven, you might as well win, and if you’re going to win, you might as well enjoy it. So here's hoping that the spirit of El Tiante can somehow flow into the corkscrew windup and the wide assortment of pitches of the actual starting pitcher for tonight's game, Daisuke Matsuzaka, whose season to date has been a little like the first two acts of Luis Tiant's career, great promise followed by a seemingly unstoppable demise. 

Here's hoping that now is the perfect time for Act Three. 

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The lineups (courtesy of Amelie Benjamin's Boson Globe blog):

Indians

1. Grady Sizemore, CF
2. Asdrubal Cabrera, 2B
3. Travis Hafner, DH
4. Victor Martinez, C
5. Ryan Garko, 1B
6. Jhonny Peralta, SS
7. Kenny Lofton, LF
8. Franklin Gutierrez, RF
9. Casey Blake, 3B

SP - Jake Westbrook

Red Sox

1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. Mike Lowell, 3B
6. J.D. Drew, RF
7. Jason Varitek, C
8. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
9. Julio Lugo, SS

SP - Daisuke Matsuzaka 

 

Comments (295)
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2007-10-21 11:24:52
1.   Ken Arneson
Hmm...Catfish? Or Stew?

I suppose the correct answer is Lefty Grove, but he was before my time. Taking only Oakland pitchers, I'd take Dave Stewart.

2007-10-21 11:35:11
2.   Ravenscar
Mets pitchers? Oh god, peak Seaver vs. peak Gooden?

I need to sit down first.

2007-10-21 11:37:27
3.   Ken Arneson
1 I guess I should explain my choice a bit. Before Game 1 of the 1989 World Series, I was walking along the ramp from the BART station, and looked down, and Dave Stewart was just arriving into the player's parking lot below us. Seemed pretty unusual, given that this was about 2 hours before the game, and Stew was starting. A guy right in front of me looked down and yelled, "You gonna win tonight, Stew?" Stew looked up at us, and said, "Yup." There was no doubt, no hesitation in his voice at all. It was a "Yup" of pure, total, complete 100% confidence.

He went out two hours later and threw a five-hit, complete game shutout.

2007-10-21 11:55:54
4.   JT Dutch
... Josh, the inclusion of that quote from Darrell Johnson regarding Luis Tiant made me think a little -- what do I KNOW about Darrell Johnson? I was 4 years old in 1975, so I obviously don't remember the Reds-Red Sox world series. The first Red Sox manager I really knew of was Don Zimmer.

So, anyway, there are two things I know about Darrell Johnson. One, he was the first manager of the Seattle Mariners. Two, there was a 1975 quote from Bill Lee about him: "He's like a cat. He's been falling out of trees all year and landing on his feet", which was essentially Lee calling him a lucky idiot; just as Lee called all his managers idiots at one point or another.

That's about it. Is there anything you can recall about his managerial style, Josh?

2007-10-21 12:14:27
5.   Linkmeister
Roger Angell on Luis Tiant's various deliveries:

Famed author / sportswriter Roger Angell wrote about Luis Tiant in Five Seasons (page 293) and described in detail his unique style of pitching. One serious fan of Tiant's wrote, 'if you have ever seen Tiant pitch, you will see that this is an EXACT description of his work:"

1) Call the Osteopath: In midpitch the man suffers an agonizing seizure in the central cervical region, which he attempts to fight off with a sharp backward twist of the head.

2) Out of the Woodshed: Just before releasing the ball he steps over a raised sill and simultaneously ducks his head to avoid conking it on the low doorframe.

3) The Runaway Taxi: Before the pivot, he sees a vehicle bearing down on him at top speed, and pulls back his entire upper body just in time to avoid a nasty accident.

4) Falling Off the Fence: An attack of vertigo nearly causes him to topple over backward on the mound. Strongly suggests a careless dude on the top rung of the corral.

5) The Slipper-Kick: In the midpitch, he surprisingly decides to get rid of his left shoe.

6) The Low-Flying Plane(a subtle development and amalgam of 1, 3, and 4 above): While he is pivoting, an F-I05 buzzes the ball park, passing over the infield from the third-base to the first-base side at a height of eight feet. He follows it all the way with his eyes.

From Baseball Almanac:
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/quotes/luis_tiant_quotes.shtml

2007-10-21 12:54:08
6.   Eric Enders
My choice is, I believe, escaping from the genetics lab as we speak. He is an ambidextrous pitcher and his name is Orel Koufax.
2007-10-21 13:39:24
7.   Josh Wilker
2 : I remember I was so excited for the matchup in game 2 of the '86 World Series between Gooden and Clemens that I busted out my journal and recorded my impressions of every pitch (until it became abundantly clear that neither pitcher was destined for greatness that day).

3 : Dave Stewart killed the Red Sox in the playoffs.

4 : I'm like you, really; I'm a little too young to have any impressions about Darrell Johsnon. I've heard stuff along the lines of the Lee quote; I think one of the players once said they were winning in '75 despite Johnson.

5 : Beautiful. Thanks for those Angell-ic descriptions.

6 : Tough to pick between those two, at least as far as "ability to carry a team in postseason." Hershiser has the edge on Yom Kippur.

2007-10-21 13:51:18
8.   the chief
No disrespect to Smokey Joe & Blue Moon, but I'd have to side with "Frosty" Bill Duggleby in the name game.
2007-10-21 14:29:43
9.   Eric Enders
8 Van Lingle Mungo says everybody else can go home now. Even Vinegar Bend Mizell.
2007-10-21 14:35:22
10.   Voxter
For the Red Sox, I'd have to go with peak Pedro. It's the easy choice, but Pedro Martinez is essentially the reason I'm still a baseball fan. I'd lost track, and didn't really care much anymore, and then Pedro showed up in Boston. I don't imagine I'll ever see anything of the like again. I don't care if it's a big game, a small game, a game being played on one of the moons of Neptune, a game played against Seraphim, a game played with a canteloupe, or a game played a thousand years in the future, vintage Pedro, every time.

As far as the Mariners go, there's really only one choice. Randy Johnson. It's boring, I know, but choose anybody else and you're just trying to stir up controversy.

2007-10-21 14:58:45
11.   Bob Timmermann
If there's one Mariners pitcher I want starting a big game, it's got to be Bob Wolcott.
2007-10-21 15:01:28
12.   Voxter
Or be funny. In which case, I'm all in favor of Ryan Anderson.
2007-10-21 16:12:58
13.   spudrph
Great, great question, with a positively Wilkerian response.

I tend to phrase this as the Alien Attack Question-You are picked to manage a team of the greatest players who ever lived in a baseball game against an alien race. Winner gets to exterminate the losers. You don't know anything about the alien players, other than they know the rules of the game and will play by the rules. Every human player is at their peak and fully healthy. Who do you name as your starting pitcher?

I answer the question this way:

1. Bob Gibson
2. Pedro Martinez
3. Sandy Koufax

This question tends to be not only a great pitcher question, but a making adjustments question. Can the pitcher not only dominate, but if the money pitch proves unreliable or hittable, can the pitcher then get hitters out with pitch 2 and pitch 3?

To answer Josh's question, I put Looie on that list, along with Petey and, frankly, the Big Schill.

5 Thank you for the Angell quote. He is a favorite author of mine, and I love that section.

2007-10-21 16:32:21
14.   Sam DC
13 Boy, when that game comes I hope they don't put it on cable at 10 pm.

You know, for the kids.

2007-10-21 16:50:08
15.   twerp
13 I don't recall who, but someone has said that if he had to pick a pitcher for one game--and his life depended on the outcome--he'd take Koufax.

But if he had to pick someone to pitch one game and the pitcher's life depended on it, he'd take Gibson...

2007-10-21 16:53:01
16.   spudrph
15 Awesome. Very pithy.
2007-10-21 17:02:03
17.   spudrph
Songs from IPod set on shuffle while waiting for game coverage to start (let's see what the gods have to say about tonight's game):

Mother Nature's Son
Tryin' To Reason With Hurricane Season
My Hometown
Careless Talk
The Obvious Child
Healing Hands

2007-10-21 17:02:55
18.   spudrph
What is up with Zelasko's hair tonight?
2007-10-21 17:04:24
19.   Ravenscar
Hurm. Can I guess?

Beatles
Buffett
Bruce? Joe Jackson has a similar song
unknown
Paul Simon
unknown

They're playing "She's Leaving Home" right now at the stadium.

2007-10-21 17:05:38
20.   trainwreck
Why does FOX hire blind people to dress Jeanie Zelasko?
2007-10-21 17:06:16
21.   spudrph
More importantly, do TV people brush their hair before they go on? How come Kennedy and Karros look neat as a pin, but Zelasko looks like she just had a nap?
2007-10-21 17:10:03
22.   spudrph
19
Yes
Yes
(Bruce)
Billy Joel
Yes
Paul Simon

I know, too many Yankee fans.

IPod doesn't have a setting for that.

2007-10-21 17:11:01
23.   spudrph
Oops. I meant that to be

Billy Joel
Yes
Elton John

Sorry.

2007-10-21 17:12:39
24.   spudrph
I just notice that, more and more, people seem to be showing up on TV looking like heck.
2007-10-21 17:14:34
25.   trainwreck
24
Wouldn't you drink if you worked for FOX?
2007-10-21 17:16:54
26.   spudrph
"Kodachrome" on the pregame.

More from the IPod:

Downeaster Alexa
Dizzy Miss Lizzy
Nobody Knows You (When You're Down and Out)

(uh oh.)

God Part II
Killing Me Softly With His Song
Yesterdays
Everybody's Trying To Be My Baby

2007-10-21 17:17:59
27.   spudrph
25 Especially if I had to listen to McCarver all day at work.
2007-10-21 17:20:34
28.   spudrph
I just chuckled recalling the comment about "if I asked Thierry Henry where he was yesterday, he'd say 'I don't know'?"

Whoever's that was, kudos.

More from the IPod:

Happy New Year B
Star 69

2007-10-21 17:23:25
29.   spudrph
RBI Baseball? Yeah, baby!

I heard Amalie Benjamin on Soxcast referring to there being a Mike Tyson's PunchOut game in the clubhouse.

That's awesome.

2007-10-21 17:25:29
30.   spudrph
Got my Dice K shirt on, and so nervous I can't breathe. Let's get it on.
2007-10-21 17:27:17
31.   Andrew Shimmin
Dear Tim McCarver,

You're a glorified screwball.

2007-10-21 17:29:03
32.   spudrph
31 Awesome.

Wow, that curve was nasty.

2007-10-21 17:31:48
33.   spudrph
KAIBATSU!!!!
2007-10-21 17:32:14
34.   Josh Wilker
So far so good. Was he throwing this hard (96 mph) in Cleveland?
2007-10-21 17:33:30
35.   spudrph
IPod:

Be My Girl/Sally
Sparrow
Still Crazy After All These Years
Can't Buy Me Love

2007-10-21 17:35:37
36.   spudrph
Way to go, DP.

DP is back, y'all.

2007-10-21 17:37:08
37.   Sam DC
McCarver: "We've talked about it time and time again."

Actually, Tim, and I say this as someone who is open to your announcing charms, that's not a good thing.

2007-10-21 17:37:47
38.   spudrph
I'll let you say it, Josh.....
2007-10-21 17:40:56
39.   KG16
I thought it was against the rules of Ortiz to strike out
2007-10-21 17:41:16
40.   Bob Timmermann
It's MBM! I like Joe Posnanski's nickname for him.
2007-10-21 17:42:06
41.   spudrph
Nice piece of pitching by Westbrook, there.
2007-10-21 17:43:13
42.   KG16
Bad defense or bad luck?
2007-10-21 17:43:25
43.   spudrph
That was a rocket.
2007-10-21 17:44:48
44.   spudrph
Just for laughs, I looked on Stubhub this morning: $1795.00 each for Field Box Seats.
2007-10-21 17:45:59
45.   KG16
Odds of Drew repeating last night's performance?
2007-10-21 17:46:53
46.   spudrph
The Wierdo Voodoo Luck Thing does seem to be working again.
2007-10-21 17:47:21
47.   KG16
46 - Or not.
2007-10-21 17:48:20
48.   Josh Wilker
We have never been at war with Eurasia.
2007-10-21 17:49:30
49.   Josh Wilker
I mean, we have always been at war with Eurasia.
2007-10-21 17:49:59
50.   spudrph
The DP was a nice play.

IPod:

Spirits In The Material World
The Times They Are A Changin
Light As The Breeze
Final Straw
Cloudy
Gardening At Night

Show/Hide Comments 51-100
2007-10-21 17:52:09
51.   KG16
I'm flipping between this and the GOP presidential debate, I'm not sure who makes less sense, McCarver or the candidates.
2007-10-21 17:54:36
52.   spudrph
Nice inning.

How, exactly, does having a six team league help a pitcher?

2007-10-21 17:58:01
53.   KG16
Mr. Buck, running fast and sliding to beat a very close throw is not "cruising".
2007-10-21 18:03:40
54.   Raf
6 I prefer Sidd Finch
2007-10-21 18:03:43
55.   Josh Wilker
Enough with the DPs!
2007-10-21 18:03:58
56.   Bob Timmermann
A double Olney from Lugo!
2007-10-21 18:06:07
57.   spudrph
53 You said it, but I'll take the counter just the same.

IPod:

All Shook Up
Drive My Car/The Word/What You're Doing
When I Look At The World
Mandolin Wind
Piano Man
Blessed
I Alone
You Got Me Hummin'
Paradise
You Took My Breath Away
Watching The Wheels

2007-10-21 18:08:03
58.   spudrph
Trivia:

Reggie

Tom Seaver

Wade Boggs

2007-10-21 18:08:57
59.   KG16
This is my first real exposure to Dice-K, does he always shake is butt like that as part of his wind up?
2007-10-21 18:10:26
60.   fordprefect
17
That would be "My Home Town" by Tom Lehrer? (Just picked up "The Remains" myself)
2007-10-21 18:11:37
61.   spudrph
59 Yeah.
2007-10-21 18:13:10
62.   spudrph
60 No, it's the Springsteen one, but I LOVE Tom Lehrer. My Dad went to MIT during the 1960s, and I used to listen to his records a lot as a youth.
2007-10-21 18:14:52
63.   Gen3Blue
Oh my God! Blake looks enough like Hendrickson to be at least his brother.
Maybe its just the beard.
2007-10-21 18:18:00
64.   fordprefect
59
Jon Miller likened it to a hula action.
(snicker)
2007-10-21 18:18:22
65.   Philip Michaels
58 I thought Seaver, too. But he wasn't on the postseason roster that year, owing to an injury (unless my memory is failing me).
2007-10-21 18:18:22
66.   spudrph
YES!!!!!
2007-10-21 18:19:28
67.   Josh Wilker
58 : Seaver was active for that series? I've been racking my brains all inning for a third guy because I thought Seaver didn't play in the playoffs.
2007-10-21 18:19:56
68.   Josh Wilker
65 : So who's the third guy? Was Sutton on the Angels?
2007-10-21 18:20:49
69.   spudrph
65 You're right, he wasn't active, but who else could it be? Not Boone. Not Rice or Baylor. Not Witt or McCaskill. Not Boyd. Not Clemens (yet).

IPod:

If I SHould Fall Behind
This Is The Time

2007-10-21 18:20:52
70.   Philip Michaels
65 Circle gets the square.
2007-10-21 18:21:30
71.   spudrph
68 You're right. Sutton was on that team.
2007-10-21 18:21:31
72.   Philip Michaels
70 By which I mean 68
2007-10-21 18:22:24
73.   Bob Timmermann
You mean Gary Pettis didn't make the Hall of Fame?
2007-10-21 18:22:41
74.   fordprefect
60
Well anyway that's the "My Home Town" I have on my portable. The guy's still alive if you can believe that. Teaching math.

-and is there any easy way while muting Fox audio to synch up radio broadcast audio? (different delays apparently)
-I'm sick of hearing that schmuck McCarver

2007-10-21 18:22:58
75.   Philip Michaels
73 Only in the Pettis family.
2007-10-21 18:24:02
76.   spudrph
I can't believe I forgot Sutton.

It's Reggie, Sutton, and Boggs.

2007-10-21 18:25:02
77.   Bob Timmermann
Marty Barrett came up just short of making it into Cooperstown.

But one day Spike Owen will make it!

2007-10-21 18:28:08
78.   spudrph
Another weak run, but I'll take it.
2007-10-21 18:30:51
79.   Josh Wilker
Gary Pettis and Gary Redus should go into the Hall together.
2007-10-21 18:31:55
80.   spudrph
IPod:

Let Me Roll It
The Boy in the Bubble
God
Black Coffee In Bed

What is Wedge DOING? If I were an Indians rooter, I'd be rending my garments asunder.

2007-10-21 18:32:23
81.   Bob Timmermann
Calvin Schiraldi and Doug Corbett both played in just 8 seasons and don't qualify for the Hall of Fame.

Gary Lucas also only made it through 8 seasons.

Steve Crawford however did get in 10 years.

2007-10-21 18:33:06
82.   spudrph
79 Along with Garry Hancock?
2007-10-21 18:35:00
83.   spudrph
79 The same weekend Cleveland Gary gets into the football Hall of Fame.
2007-10-21 18:36:07
84.   Bob Timmermann
Gary Redus was a lot better than Gary Pettis.

Gary Pettis was a Juan Pierre prototype. Although Pettis could field a lot better, but if he ever hit the ball out of the infield, it was a surprise.

2007-10-21 18:43:16
85.   spudrph
Wow, that was long.
2007-10-21 18:44:24
86.   Josh Wilker
84 : Pettis drew more walks than Pierre.
2007-10-21 18:44:37
87.   spudrph
Stop nibbling, man! Get 'em!
2007-10-21 18:44:48
88.   Ken Arneson
84 I'm not so sure Redus was a much better player in total. Pettis was a really really good CF.
2007-10-21 18:45:12
89.   Bluebleeder87
The umpire has a gracious strike zone for Dice-K or is the even with both pitchers?
2007-10-21 18:46:59
90.   Bluebleeder87
Dice-K gets out of it
2007-10-21 18:47:26
91.   Josh Wilker
First sign of trouble in the 5th get Okajima in there, then Beckett for 2, then Pap.
2007-10-21 18:48:02
92.   Bluebleeder87
87

that's the thing though, there on to him if he throws fastball down the middle the Indians will make Matsuzaka pay for it! there figuring him out I guess....

2007-10-21 18:49:25
93.   spudrph
WHew! Nice play by Lugo!

IPod:

Walk This Way
Backdoor Man
Electron Blue
All Apologies
Blitzkrieg

2007-10-21 18:51:33
94.   spudrph
92 Don't they hit everybody who leaves the fastball down Broadway, generally?

I hope he doesn't, but Wedge has got to do something soon.

2007-10-21 18:52:31
95.   Bluebleeder87
the Cleveland skipper is pressing his luck with this pitcher no?
2007-10-21 18:53:36
96.   Bluebleeder87
94

yup, specially if it's straight like a lazer, a la Tomko.

2007-10-21 18:53:59
97.   Bob Timmermann
Gary Pettis in his career had -88.4 batting runs and -8.9 batting runs.

Gary Redus was a plus 41.2 batting runs and 4.2 batting wins.

Juan Pierre is already at -119.8 batting runs!

2007-10-21 18:54:50
98.   spudrph
Who wore 46 for Boston before? Was that Bob Stanley?
2007-10-21 18:56:06
99.   spudrph
Julio Lugo for Deity of All Things
2007-10-21 18:56:30
100.   Bob Timmermann
Jermaine Van Buren wore #46 for the Red Sox last year.
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2007-10-21 18:58:06
101.   Bluebleeder87
Victor Martinez must be a horrible throwing catcher cause McCarver is even call him out on it!
2007-10-21 18:59:34
102.   Ken Arneson
I'll bet Pettis was a +20 runs/year centerfielder at least.

Plus I'll bet that Pettis had some dumb managers who batted him leadoff way too often

2007-10-21 19:00:19
103.   Josh Wilker
I. Can't. Stand. It.
2007-10-21 19:00:33
104.   Gen3Blue
Lugo knows how to get those double plays. Two so far.
2007-10-21 19:02:11
105.   Josh Wilker
Pettis and Redus are both in the player pool of the Back to the '80s Online Start-O-Matic game. Redus costs a little more and is almost never used. Pettis generally finds a home with someone, batting ninth and playing a great centerfield.
2007-10-21 19:03:11
106.   spudrph
IPod:

Piggies
My Life

YES!!!!! Fear the arm of Manuel!!!!

2007-10-21 19:04:25
107.   spudrph
Eeyikes. This is looking sticky for us, too.
2007-10-21 19:06:30
108.   spudrph
He was safe, it looked like, except the ump was right on top of the play. Hard to imagine he missed it.
2007-10-21 19:06:46
109.   Bob Timmermann
In 1986, Pettis batted leadoff in 62 games and had a .335 OBP.

Gene Mauch also liked to use Rick Burleson and Ruppert Jones in the leadoff spot.

What an incredibly strange man Gene Mauch was.

2007-10-21 19:07:53
110.   spudrph
I might just be rending my garments myself soon.
2007-10-21 19:09:55
111.   spudrph
I feel sick.
2007-10-21 19:11:33
112.   Bluebleeder87
the Indians are peaking away...
2007-10-21 19:11:42
113.   spudrph
That's alright. I'll take it.
2007-10-21 19:12:39
114.   spudrph
Did he spend all the 97 mph ones in the first?

THERES the nice hook again.

2007-10-21 19:14:17
115.   Bluebleeder87
I'm conflicted on who I want to win:

1] if the BoSox win ratings will sky rocket

2] if Cleveland wins only hard core fans will really enjoy the series.

2007-10-21 19:16:08
116.   Bluebleeder87
the ump needs to stick with a strike zone...
2007-10-21 19:16:43
117.   Bob Timmermann
115
If you like baseball, why would you care about the TV ratings? You will watch the World Series anyway.

If other people don't want to watch, that's their problem.

Baseball isn't a sitcom. It's not going to get canceled if people don't watch in sufficient numbers.

2007-10-21 19:17:27
118.   Bob Timmermann
And that should be all for 松坂 大輔
2007-10-21 19:19:02
119.   Josh Wilker
Now begins the battle of the bullpens.
2007-10-21 19:19:04
120.   Bluebleeder87
118

That's cool...

2007-10-21 19:20:42
121.   Bob Timmermann
If you started coughing like that at a sushi bar, you most likely wouldn't be given a cough drop, but rather asked to go sit someplace else.

Unless it were in Japan, in which case, you'd come in wearing a surgical mask to begin with.

2007-10-21 19:25:16
122.   spudrph
IPod:

Daniel
The Ballad of the Boy In The Red Shoes

I can't believe either starter hasn't been pulled yet.

2007-10-21 19:26:23
123.   Bob Timmermann
Both managers wanted their starters to be eligible for the win.
2007-10-21 19:26:47
124.   Josh Wilker
This could have been so much easier.
2007-10-21 19:26:55
125.   Bluebleeder87
If I were an MLB pitcher Hafner would scare the bejesus out of me.
2007-10-21 19:28:08
126.   spudrph
WOW, that was harsh. Nice pitch to close out Manny. Wow.

IPod:

I Dreamed A Dream
Only The Good Die Young
Shout
Still Crazy After All These Years
Zanzibar
Give Peace a Chance

2007-10-21 19:28:35
127.   spudrph
WOW, that was harsh. Nice pitch to close out Manny. Wow.

IPod:

I Dreamed A Dream
Only The Good Die Young
Shout
Still Crazy After All These Years
Zanzibar
Give Peace a Chance

2007-10-21 19:29:40
128.   spudrph
123 Oh, exactly. I think I'm going to have a stroke if we don't get another run.

Heartburn? Uh, yeah.

2007-10-21 19:30:27
129.   Bob Timmermann
In comes 岡島 秀樹
2007-10-21 19:30:34
130.   spudrph
11 outs to go.
2007-10-21 19:31:14
131.   fordprefect
117
Apparently you haven't consulted Scott Long.
2007-10-21 19:34:29
132.   spudrph
IPod:

You May Be Right
Daddy Sang Bass

10 outs to go.

2007-10-21 19:35:06
133.   Bob Timmermann
All the talk about ratings for the World Series reminds of "The Simpsons" episode where Homer becomes an astronaut and all the people in Mission Control say that their equipment is just for tracking TV ratings.
2007-10-21 19:35:39
134.   Bluebleeder87
I wonder how many toaster-rites have tattoos (I have non) for some reason watching Bob's Japanese writing it made me think of tattoos.
2007-10-21 19:35:58
135.   spudrph
9 outs to go!!!! YES YES YES!!!!!!!
2007-10-21 19:36:57
136.   Philip Michaels
Joe Buck: There's the prize.

Me: An ugly logo?

2007-10-21 19:37:44
137.   Bluebleeder87
132

I don't think Francona would let Dice-K pitch a complete right.

2007-10-21 19:37:46
138.   Bob Timmermann
I am not writing in Japanese. I'm cutting and pasting in Japanese.

I know about as much Japanese as everyone else here.

2007-10-21 19:38:43
139.   spudrph
IPod:

Immortality
Wilbury Twist
Leopard Skin Pill Box Hat
Do It For The Kids
Darkness on the Edge of Town
Eleanor Rigby
I'm Ready
Finale
Rocket Man

My wife has a life threatening crush on Mike Rowe.

2007-10-21 19:39:45
140.   Bluebleeder87
has Dice-K ever pitched a complete game the majors?
2007-10-21 19:39:57
141.   Bob Timmermann
So which inning does Gagne pitch?
2007-10-21 19:40:02
142.   spudrph
I am going to be ill if we don't get another run.
2007-10-21 19:41:04
143.   spudrph
140 Yes, I'm pretty sure he got at least one, but not many, that's for sure.
2007-10-21 19:41:10
144.   spudrph
140 Yes, I'm pretty sure he got at least one, but not many, that's for sure.
2007-10-21 19:41:46
145.   Bob Timmermann
Matszuaka had one complete game this year.

He had 72 in Japan.

2007-10-21 19:42:21
146.   spudrph
He got exactly one, as per BR.com
2007-10-21 19:42:25
147.   Bob Timmermann
Matsuzaka went the distance on May 14 against the Tigers.
2007-10-21 19:43:19
148.   spudrph
We can't make this guy look like a genius NOW, can we?
2007-10-21 19:45:52
149.   spudrph
I feel ill.

IPod:

Damned For All Time/Blood Money

(uh oh.)

Too Late Too Late

(uh oh.)

Off He Goes

The Boxer

Need You Tonight

Crash Course in Brain Surgery

New Kid In Town

2007-10-21 19:46:15
150.   fordprefect
141
the one in which the Red Sox lose.
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2007-10-21 19:46:50
151.   Bluebleeder87
148

His sinker is sinking a lot more apparently, either that or there not being selective.

2007-10-21 19:48:18
152.   spudrph
8 outs to go....I think I'm dying.
2007-10-21 19:49:07
153.   Bluebleeder87
Lugo is just having a HORRIBLE HORRIBLE year wow!!
2007-10-21 19:49:11
154.   Bob Timmermann
Julio being Julio.
2007-10-21 19:49:15
155.   spudrph
Oh, sweet Jesus, no.
2007-10-21 19:50:24
156.   Bob Timmermann
That ball was knocked out of Lugo's glove by the ghost of Fred Snodgrass.
2007-10-21 19:51:22
157.   fordprefect
Wow. Lugo.
2007-10-21 19:52:57
158.   Bluebleeder87
why did he stop!!! what the....
2007-10-21 19:53:26
159.   fordprefect
Wha?
2007-10-21 19:53:30
160.   Bluebleeder87
Does Manny Ramirez have a gun or is it that it was to close?
2007-10-21 19:54:18
161.   brer Ian
I'm developing an ulcer ovah heah.

jezuz, what a frustrating nail-biter.

2007-10-21 19:54:20
162.   Bob Timmermann
I think the third base coach showed an overabundance of caution.
2007-10-21 19:54:33
163.   Bluebleeder87
Cleveland gets a taste of there on medicine...
2007-10-21 19:54:35
164.   fordprefect
Time for second-guessing the third-base coach.
2007-10-21 19:54:58
165.   Bob Timmermann
But at least we finally have an exciting playoff game.
2007-10-21 19:56:07
166.   Josh Wilker
163 : Essackly.
2007-10-21 19:56:41
167.   Josh Wilker
Papelbon from here on out?
2007-10-21 19:56:58
168.   spudrph
WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!

What a clutch DP. WOW.

What an unbelievable game.

Wow.

6 outs to go.

Lucky for us, Joel Skinner just had a brain lock. Joel, I'd like you to meet Rene Lachemann.

IPod:

The Arrest
Allentown
Don't Cry
Today 4 U

2007-10-21 19:57:02
169.   Bluebleeder87
162

I can understand if its a slow runner but you've got Lofton running down the line, who knows if they'll get another chance now. I think there Closer Papelbob is coming in to pitch 2!!

2007-10-21 19:57:14
170.   LogikReader
Here comes Betancourt! I'll be back in an hour.
2007-10-21 19:58:31
171.   spudrph
156 Very, very good reference. That happened at Fenway, too.
2007-10-21 19:58:58
172.   Bluebleeder87
168

SpudRph, is "Don't Cry" from guns 'n Roses?

2007-10-21 20:00:03
173.   spudrph
Oh, my.

Casey Blake, I'd like you to meet Dick Stuart.

2007-10-21 20:00:16
174.   Gen3Blue
Somehow this fits into one of my super pessimistic rules about offense. The Sox felt they had were done with it when they were up 3-0 or 3-1, and therefore they will provide no more offense. It is up to their pitching staff to win it now.
Believe me, I hope I am wrong about this, but I can't see anything that could keep this Sox team from scoring runs except psychology.
2007-10-21 20:00:36
175.   spudrph
172 Si.
2007-10-21 20:00:55
176.   Bob Timmermann
171
It was also the last year they added any bathrooms to Fenway.

Or painted it.

2007-10-21 20:02:20
177.   Bluebleeder87
It's over Cleveland, it's over.
2007-10-21 20:02:32
178.   Andrew Shimmin
Hang it all.
2007-10-21 20:02:33
179.   fordprefect
Whoa.
2007-10-21 20:02:33
180.   Bob Timmermann
I guess Joel Skinner is off the hook now.
2007-10-21 20:02:47
181.   spudrph
Dustin Pedroia for Mayor of Boston, Defeater of the Saxons, Sovereign of All New England.
2007-10-21 20:03:17
182.   Gen3Blue
Never mind.
2007-10-21 20:04:06
183.   Josh Wilker
What is this pleasant gaseous substance in my lungs? It seems to be entering my body through my nose and mouth.
2007-10-21 20:04:23
184.   spudrph
179 Excellent handle. I just reread the misnamed trilogy for perhaps the 10th time.

I think I can breathe again.

2007-10-21 20:04:29
185.   fordprefect
Here we go with the Eckstein stuff.
Grit.
Under Seven ft. tall.

Under 500 lbs.

Jaizus.

2007-10-21 20:05:16
186.   brer Ian
Most Valuable Player for the Sox today? The Monster. It's been taking from Cleveland all night, and just provided us some blessed insurance.
2007-10-21 20:05:44
187.   fordprefect
184
I'm just like it. "Increasingly inaccurately named."
2007-10-21 20:07:57
188.   Josh Wilker
186 : Honorable mention to Cleveland's 3rd base coach, who was intimidated by the gun of the bad man.
2007-10-21 20:08:31
189.   spudrph
IPod:

Dude (Looks Like A Lady)
Five Long Years
Code of Silence
Fever
Can't Get It Out Of My Mind
American Tune
Laura
Christmas in the Caribbean
Goodnight Saigon
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Beautiful

2007-10-21 20:08:34
190.   jasonungar07
Would it be total chaos WITHOUT base coaches? Like would they run anywhere they wanted?
2007-10-21 20:09:30
191.   Bluebleeder87
the Indians come roaring back!!!!
2007-10-21 20:10:18
192.   spudrph
I'm sorry if the IPod stuff is annoying anyone, but I think it provides an interesting meta commentary.

And it's working, so I ain't stopping. 6 outs to go.

2007-10-21 20:10:56
193.   Bluebleeder87
189

SpudRph is "Beautiful" from the band "Flickerstick"?

2007-10-21 20:11:06
194.   spudrph
190 LOL. Good one.
2007-10-21 20:11:14
195.   Sam DC
I suppose holding Lofton there isn't as mechanically bad as getting two guys thrown out at home on the same play, but what with it being Game 7, I'm thinking it climbs to the top ladder anyhow.
2007-10-21 20:11:18
196.   Bob Timmermann
The official rules of baseball first made mention of coaches in 1872, so teams have found them handy for a while.
2007-10-21 20:11:49
197.   Bluebleeder87
Destiny awaits you Mr. Papelbon...
2007-10-21 20:12:11
198.   Josh Wilker
Boy, it's great they didn't start the inning with Papelbon.
2007-10-21 20:12:40
199.   spudrph
193 Actually, no- Paul Simon, from his latest album. I don't truck with much of this new music you young fellers listen to.
2007-10-21 20:12:48
200.   Bob Timmermann
Doesn't destiny await everybody?

Except for most of use our destiny involves going to the grocery store to buy microwaveable pizzas.

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2007-10-21 20:13:01
201.   fordprefect
195
Hehe, bad echoes from the other LA baseball team.
2007-10-21 20:13:49
202.   spudrph
I don't like the move to Pap in the 8th. I just don't.

But I hope to hell I'm wrong.

2007-10-21 20:14:16
203.   Bluebleeder87
Baseball-Reference.com doesn't give me how many blown saves Papelbon had in '07!
2007-10-21 20:14:17
204.   brer Ian
198 Baffling.
2007-10-21 20:14:43
205.   Bluebleeder87
re-play says it was a bad bad call by the 3rd base coach, did you guys see that!?
2007-10-21 20:15:00
206.   fordprefect
Can someone please shut McCarver up?
2007-10-21 20:16:56
207.   spudrph
YES!!! 5 outs to go!!!!!!
2007-10-21 20:17:01
208.   Bluebleeder87
whoa!! high heat
2007-10-21 20:18:18
209.   spudrph
4 outs to go. We'll take one. That's fine.
2007-10-21 20:18:53
210.   Bob Timmermann
Papelbon had three blown saves this season. If you pull up the gamelog you can see them.
2007-10-21 20:19:11
211.   spudrph
Ouch. 97, outside corner. Nasty.
2007-10-21 20:19:16
212.   Sam DC
205 Really, that one couldn't have been more clear in real time. I don't begrudge the third base coach the error, but did ANYONE not find it baffling as it unfolded?
2007-10-21 20:19:34
213.   brer Ian
I have bad intentions toward mr. Lugo.
2007-10-21 20:19:59
214.   Andrew Shimmin
Doesn't the second base umpire have to get some consideration for MVP of the game? It's no longer the difference in the game, but calling out Lofton when he was clearly safe should count for something. They should yank the C off of Varitek's jersey and give it to him, after the game.
2007-10-21 20:20:22
215.   Bob Timmermann
212
I was surprised that Lofton was held at the time. There's no way Ramirez could have anticipated a carom that way.
2007-10-21 20:20:22
216.   spudrph
WOW. Great pitch. Wow.
2007-10-21 20:20:49
217.   brer Ian
Oh thank the gods.
2007-10-21 20:23:22
218.   spudrph
214 Come on.

I think he was safe, too, but the ump was RIGHT ON TOP of the play. Is it not possible he saw it better than we did?

Heart now emerging from throat.

3 outs to go.

IPod:

Levon
Overture
So Fast, So Numb
Gumboots
Rue Plumet/In My Life
Hard Sun (Main)

2007-10-21 20:24:34
219.   spudrph
What say let's get a quick dozen runs, shall we?
2007-10-21 20:24:36
220.   Bluebleeder87
212

well yeah, I wanted there 3rd base coach to send the speedy Lofton, Bob did also.

2007-10-21 20:24:47
221.   Bob Timmermann
Youkilis will likely break the 7-game ALCS record for batting average at .481.

Anyone wish to guess who held the old record at .455?

The NLCS record for a 7 game series is .772!

2007-10-21 20:25:30
222.   Andrew Shimmin
218- No. That's not possible. What would he have seen that the cameras missed?
2007-10-21 20:25:54
223.   Bob Timmermann
Sorry, the NLCS record is just .727.
2007-10-21 20:26:45
224.   Andrew Shimmin
221- David Eckstein?
2007-10-21 20:26:59
225.   Bluebleeder87
SpudRph do you have any obscure songs like Fergies latest single?
2007-10-21 20:27:08
226.   Bob Timmermann
The NL record is held by this guy:
http://tinyurl.com/2jktsf
2007-10-21 20:27:40
227.   Bob Timmermann
David Eckstein never played in a 7-game ALCS. But it is an Angel.
2007-10-21 20:27:42
228.   fordprefect
spudrph, interesting device, btw,(ipod songlist I mean) don't know if anyone took the time to mention that....
2007-10-21 20:28:37
229.   Bluebleeder87
223

just.

2007-10-21 20:30:56
230.   Bluebleeder87
Does Francona ever stop chewing!

what does he chew anyway.

It hurts my jaw watching him.

2007-10-21 20:31:32
231.   Saburo
Is Terry wearing his uniform top tonight?!!
2007-10-21 20:31:49
232.   spudrph
228 Thanks.

222 He was less than 20 feet away. We don't know what he saw. The perfect angle would be from the third base dugout, about 30 feet in the air. From what I saw, I agree with you, he should be safe, but the umpire was SO CLOSE. I believe maybe he saw what we missed. I don't know. But it's possible.

2007-10-21 20:33:17
233.   spudrph
225 Fergie is hot, but I'm not a fan of her music.
2007-10-21 20:34:26
234.   spudrph
230 At one point, he chewed tobacco, but I thought I read that he quit. He made a bet with John Henry, IIRC.
2007-10-21 20:34:46
235.   Bluebleeder87
233

me either I was just asking.

2007-10-21 20:34:58
236.   Bob Timmermann
Youkilis and Manny will also set ALCS records for OBP in a 7-game series at .581.
2007-10-21 20:36:14
237.   spudrph
Oh my goodness gracious me.
2007-10-21 20:36:15
238.   Bluebleeder87
a lot of Bostonians will call in sick tomorrow I presume.
2007-10-21 20:36:51
239.   brer Ian
Holy smokes. That was pure TWiB bloopers material.
2007-10-21 20:36:52
240.   Andrew Shimmin
232- I can't prove there's no tooth fairy, either. But there isn't one.

Hey Blake, why don't you just sit down and watch the rest of this one?

2007-10-21 20:36:57
241.   Bob Timmermann
Youkilis could get another AB.
2007-10-21 20:37:45
242.   fordprefect
230
I think Hurdle bests Francona for chewing intensity. Looks like his jaw could fly off at any moment. The comparison shots between him and Francona should make for interesting Fox baseball.
2007-10-21 20:38:54
243.   Josh Wilker
Francona has had a bad, bad chewing toboacco habit. Tried to break it this year, couldn't. I'm not sure where he's at right now with it.
2007-10-21 20:40:24
244.   Jimi Shelter
189. spudrph
IPod:
Five Long Years

Eddie Boyd? Or Eric Clapton?

2007-10-21 20:41:12
245.   Bluebleeder87
for my taste, I preferred Hurdle bouncing a baseball in pressure situations.
2007-10-21 20:41:17
246.   Bob Timmermann
Youkilis had scored 9 runs tying the ALCS record in that category. Hideki Matsui scored 9 times in 2004.

Not that many people remember that.

2007-10-21 20:43:07
247.   Jimi Shelter
IPod:
Five Long Years

Or Muddy Waters? I just realized I have all three on my lap top!

2007-10-21 20:43:22
248.   spudrph
I think I have a crush on the girl behind home plate in the green t shirt that says "Love That Dirty Water".
2007-10-21 20:44:23
249.   Josh Wilker
248 : All series long I've been watching the guy behind home plate who looks like Jerry Springer.
2007-10-21 20:45:21
250.   Bluebleeder87
Keep your chin up Westbrook you kept 'em in the game at least.
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2007-10-21 20:45:23
251.   spudrph
244 The Clapton version from "From The Cradle".

It's Silly Season now.

2007-10-21 20:45:43
252.   Josh Wilker
246 : Thanks for sharing those stats on Youk. Pretty impressive, but I still think Beckett's been more important so far.
2007-10-21 20:47:05
253.   Bluebleeder87
248

I can't find her, were is she SpudRph, is the shirt black or white?

2007-10-21 20:47:53
254.   spudrph
Oh boy, a Coke bottle shot from....

I'll take this one, Josh....

YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK!!!!

2007-10-21 20:48:03
255.   Bob Timmermann
Youkilis has now wrapped up the top batting average and top slugging percentage in a 7-game ALCS.

And top OBP unless Manny Ramirez gets a chance to bat.

2007-10-21 20:48:37
256.   brer Ian
Off the Coke sign! That, ladies and gents, is how you hit a dinger.
2007-10-21 20:49:19
257.   spudrph
253 It's green, and she has glasses on. When a right handed hitter steps out, you can see her.
2007-10-21 20:50:16
258.   KG16
has anyone else been somewhat surprised by the lopsided scores in this series? Four of the first six games have been decided by at least 6 runs. This one looks to make it five of seven.

The uniqueness of match ups in baseball, I guess.

2007-10-21 20:51:33
259.   spudrph
3 outs to go.

IPod:

Sacrifice
Magical Mystery Tour
Rain
Everybody Loves You Now
Lonely Stranger
Matchbox
Bastille Day
52nd Street

2007-10-21 20:52:36
260.   Josh Wilker
258 : A couple of the lopsided games have been white knucklers for much of the game.
2007-10-21 20:52:52
261.   spudrph
258 BP had an article about this-this is probably going to be the most lopsided 7 game series ever.
2007-10-21 20:55:06
262.   Bluebleeder87
257

She looks kind of tomboy-ish though bro. I havent seen her face yeat.

2007-10-21 20:55:38
263.   spudrph
Jacoby Ellsbury.
2007-10-21 20:56:05
264.   Bob Timmermann
Youkilis is going to finish with a .500 BA and 1.504 OPS for the ALCS.

And likely not be the MVP.

2007-10-21 20:56:45
265.   spudrph
262 I don't care. I'd kiss virtually anybody at this point.

1 OUT TO GO!!!!!!!!

2007-10-21 20:57:36
266.   fordprefect
Chewing contest, here we come.
2007-10-21 20:57:49
267.   Bluebleeder87
Congrats Josh Wilker, I'm guessing it will be a very interesting BoSox versus Rox/ David versus Goliath!!!!
2007-10-21 20:57:51
268.   spudrph
WOW. We did it. WOW.

I love that dirty water.........

2007-10-21 20:58:16
269.   brer Ian
Beautiful!!!

And one of the better catches I've seen in Fenway.

2007-10-21 20:58:26
270.   Bob Timmermann
Even JD Drew raised his arm to celebrate!
2007-10-21 20:59:00
271.   Bluebleeder87
EUPHORIA strikes Bostonians!!
2007-10-21 20:59:36
272.   fordprefect
270
Wonder how much that hurt?
2007-10-21 21:00:10
273.   spudrph
Yes, Josh, congrats. We did it, man.
2007-10-21 21:00:12
274.   Bluebleeder87
theres no crying in baseball Victor Martinez!
2007-10-21 21:00:20
275.   spudrph
Yes, Josh, congrats. We did it, man.
2007-10-21 21:01:28
276.   Bluebleeder87
Does Boston have a victory song?
2007-10-21 21:02:13
277.   brer Ian
Slo-mo of Papelbon's reaction to Crisp's catch was priceless.
2007-10-21 21:02:48
278.   Bluebleeder87
I wonder what XeiFranks machine says about this next series. I'm sure the Rox are the underdogs right.
2007-10-21 21:04:49
279.   Josh Wilker
Oh my god, bliss!!!!!!!

Thanks for the congrats and the company everyone. I'm a happy camper.

It ain't over, but the American league Pennant is Big. Hang another flag, boys:

1903
1904
1912
1915
1916
1918
1946
1967
1986
2004
2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2007-10-21 21:05:51
280.   Josh Wilker
278 : The Rockies are going to be tough. They sure aren't going to boot the ball around like the Indians (and Sox) have been bootin' it.

Who's the MVP? I still gotta go Beckett.

2007-10-21 21:07:49
281.   Bluebleeder87
I hope J.D. Drew gets nice & loaded. I don't think the guy drinks though.
2007-10-21 21:08:39
282.   spudrph
279

And those words I buttered in game four taste just fine....wow. I have to admit, I bailed, and I couldn't be happier to be wrong.

2007-10-21 21:08:41
283.   brer Ian
Is there another tune as perfect as "Dirty Water" for the collective "my city rules!" euphoric celebration?

And re 278 : yeah, Beckett, no question in my mind.

2007-10-21 21:09:08
284.   Bob Timmermann
For an oldtime celebration:

http://tinyurl.com/3dhpwn

2007-10-21 21:10:09
285.   Bluebleeder87
everybody has snorkels!
2007-10-21 21:10:43
286.   spudrph
280 Yeah, Beckett. Good choice. Wow.

I'm in seventh heaven.

2007-10-21 21:11:47
287.   spudrph
See you on Wednesday, everybody.
2007-10-21 21:14:08
288.   brer Ian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu43lbTrvOQ
2007-10-21 21:16:25
289.   Bluebleeder87
284

Really nice soothing tune, & ironically when I played it Fox was showing the BoSox celebrating in slow-mo which went hand 'n hand.

2007-10-21 21:18:59
290.   Josh Wilker
284 : Awesome find.

288 : Great. I want to see what he's going to do tonight.

2007-10-21 21:19:01
291.   Bluebleeder87
Papelbon dance moves aren't something to write home about.
2007-10-21 21:32:38
292.   Josh Wilker
Papelbon just did his riverdance again (on foxsports.com). Not quite as manic this time, more blissed out.
2007-10-21 21:56:16
293.   Bob Timmermann
The 51 runs by the Sox are the most in LCS history. The 2004 Yankees had 45.

The 86 total runs scored match the 2004 ALCS.

2007-10-22 04:40:24
294.   Josh Wilker
279 : and 1975
2007-10-22 17:04:58
295.   Ennui Willie Keeler
And the Sox make it. I won't go to any of the games, but I'll have to check out the parade on November 3rd if it happens. The Admiral and I were up there in '04 like you, Josh.

The Game Chatter format isn't that conducive to discussing the cards, although I think you use them as McGuffins anyways, but I had a few comments on the recent ones.

Rick Miller: Married Pudge Fisk's siter. I forget if that came up.

Eck: Used to oil on 80-Weight. I remember him more as an A even though I was following the Red Sox from 78 to 84 with the intensity of a Talmudic scholar. The Spaceman had some good anecdotes about him in The Wrong Stuff.

Jack Brohamer: His Broham Tom is a leading handicapper of Thoroughbrds and has authored a book titled Modern Pace Handicapping.

Larry Andersen: Often wondered why people parked on driveways yet drove on parkways. The Baseball Uncyclopedia thinks that he ripped most of his material from Stephen Wright.

El Tiante: Pretty damn similar to Catfish Hunter. I guess the WS rings are what got Hunter to Cooperstown over Luis. Guy was able to keep a cigar lit in the shower.

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